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¿Fallout 4? Nope, fake

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#16  Enviado: 23:11 17/11/2013  Editado: 23:13 17/11/2013 (1 vez)

¿Alguien me podria explicar por qué internet esta lleno de paladines que salvaguardan la integridad y el honor de multinacionales a las que les importamos una putisima mierda?
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#17  Enviado: 23:23 17/11/2013

www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1qtwhj/the_survivor_2299_speculation_and_hype_megathread/cdgfyui

Lo C&P tal cual pero me da pereza darle formato, así que id al link de arriba:
EVIDENCE AGAINST/FOR/INCONCLUSIVE THESURVIVOR2299.COM AUTHENTICY FROM FIRST AND SECOND MEGATHREADS AND UPDATES

Mostly quoted from previous posts. Trying to summarize 4000+comments! Not relating to twitter or tumbler.
Also, you should check out WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT “THE SURVIVOR 2299” aka “Fallout 4 hype/ARG” By /u/VaultOfDaedalus
Original Author: chaos_is_a_ladder and /r/fallout community

AGAINST------------------------------------------------------------
"ZeniMax registered both Wolfenstein's and The Elder Scrolls' domains through Corporate Domains Inc, while TheSurvivor2299 was registered with GoDaddy.com. Meanwhile, ZeniMax uses its own DNS servers for its registrations (ns1.zenimax.com) while TheSurvior2299 uses a separate, self-branded server: ns1.thesurvivor2299.com. Furthermore, the whois page for TheSurvivor2299 is also missing Corporate Service Company's Corporate Domains Inc promotion introducing ZeniMax's known, legitimate domains." Should be noted though that "elderscrollsonline.com uses different IP as well as Name server than all other zenimax games."
"The server is also configured differently from other Bethesda hosts"
Website scripts or HTML seem to change as people talk about it on Reddit:
"-Using the same google analytics account that fallout.bethsoft.com uses. Anyone can copy and paste this.
-Using a free, open source countdown script: http://krzysztof-furtak.pl/kk-countdown-jquery-plugin/ (note that it used to be named 'bscountdown.js', until someone said that they believed it was a hoax due to that name. it was shortly thereafter changed to 'bsccountdown.js")
-The clarification of the date format in the source of the page, which ANYONE can see and will obviously check. This is suspicious because we made a big deal about 11/12/13 already passing, so they saved face by sending us a message and saying it was meant to be dd/mm/yy. This is bs.
-The "mysterious" audio files being in the source. This is just to get people to google/investigate this information, only to further the wild goose chase this person has created.
-The last thing that made me suspicious of this site is the RTMP server comments at the top. First, why even have this at all? People were suspicious about it being an IP address in Poland or something. This is when the 'european/american' server comment was added to the source. This guy is just reading reddit and making changes to foolproof this scam as people report inconsistencies. This is honestly not sticky worthy.. but the hype train has already started which is exactly what they want. Nothing is coming on December 11, 2013."

FOR-------------------------------------------------------------------
NEW from megathread 2 "Search for a trademark name containing fallout, latest result" Fallout 4, registered 11/14/13 is shown as registered to Bethesda Softworks LLC
"VGAs are in December (Dec 7). Bethesda announced Skyrim there 3 years ago".
"Blizzard also used GoDaddy leading up to their announcement, instead of their usual Network Solutions. They did so to add doubt, and it ended up being legit.
"Bethesda has flat out denied every Fallout4 hoax in the past, but this time they said "we don't comment on rumors."
"(The site) remaining so stable in all of this is a good sign. If it's a hoax, the hoaxer is paying a lot of money for this much bandwidth."
ETD Fallout-related tease on twitter in January. In Nukapedia interview said any hints he hears from Bethesda will be tweeted. Then Yesterday he tweets this. NEW And more tease with this.
"Yesterday afternoon, there were commented-out links to the old "Prepare for the Future" website, a domain that, like you said, no longer points to the old viral campaign. .... These links are currently pointing to the fallout.bethsoft.com page, and don't actually go anywhere. This, to me, means one of two things:
-Either someone happens to remember (or is making up) links that point to the now defunct prepareforthefuture domain's image directory. That means that they're been aware of these addresses for going on six years.
OR -This is actually Bethesda's hand at play, and the links are pointing to prepareforthefuture.com as a placeholder and hidden domain that users cannot access."

INCONCLUSIVE......................................................................
For: A ton of Fallout/Bethesda related audio, pictures, links and stuff in the source code. Also seems to relate to Boston MA area. Most posts are about this. See: http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Blog:News/The_Survivor_2299
For: "All links with http://prepareforthefuture.com/ redirect to http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/home/home.php. http://prepareforthefuture.com/ is owned by ZeniMax"
For: "Domain name resolves to 199.15.249.30 it's in the same subnet 199. and it points to Maryland Baltimore. Who ever made the thesurvivor2299.com site is keeping a very steady eye on the discussions about the code and webinfo."
For: "ZeniMax Media (parent company for Bethesda Softworks) has just registered a new trademark - "Void Engine powered by id Tech""
For: Skyrim release 11.11.11, Fallout 3 teaser timer counted down to 5.6.7
Against: from MEGATHREAD 2 "This website is mentioned in the code of the thesurvivor2299.com website: http://krzysztof-furtak.pl/, as requested by some redditors I have translated it: http://imgur.com/1vaaipI"
(essentially its not the guy Bethesda would hire to code 2299.)
Update by /u/jedbur:

Okay everyone, i got a reply to my email to the polish developer guy regarding the website. He says he did not work on it, but his jQuery plugin was used in it. I have sent him an email asking did he get a request to use it, and was it anonymous or not. EDIT: I got a reply. He did not get any requests to use his plugin as the license for it states no request is needed. Polish Webmaster who worked on the jQuary plugin does not work on the site, only his plugin was used
-Note: "this code wasn't found directly in the code of thesurvivor2299.com, but in the code of a third party javascript plugin called kkcountdown (/assets/js/bbe160d01998eaa70d6b42091f1a10bd66.js) that plugin is under under GNU general public license"

Against: There is a function "74aSliderLaunch" in the source. Javascript functions/variables MUST start with a letter or an underscore. There are also other errors in the code that would leave me to believe that this person is an amateur, and not a professional. The callback function for the countdown (what happens when timer reaches 0), will not doing anything because it doesn't reference the correct element. HTML comments only need two dashes (<!-- comment here -->Guiño and not three. These are not mistakes a professional web developer would make."
-Note "Thats not an "against". I've seen plenty of programmers of the "professional" variety use multiple dashes. Its really down to personal preference."



es.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1qtgqo/when_the_httpthesurvivor2299com_timer_reaches_zero/


es.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1qtirg/such_fallout_very_confirmed/


es.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1qtcui/three_dog_teases/
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#18  Enviado: 16:21 18/11/2013

Yo me ofrezco de hacer el post oficial de Fallout 4 cuando lo anuncien... ¿alguna objeción?  Smilie
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#19  Enviado: 16:17 24/11/2013

Dice un tío de gaf que esto lo ha sacado de la web del teaser.

puu.sh/5q8L3.mp3

Con pinzas que puede ser fake pero cuadra bastante.
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#20  Enviado: 23:16 01/12/2013  Editado: 23:17 01/12/2013 (1 vez)

Han actualizado la web de la cuenta atras y aparece esto:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120-
Nuclear winter has come


Y significa esto (supuestamente)

THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US.    I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-


Mas info aqui.

A traves de los distintos codigos Morse que han sonado han sacado cosillas, como referencias a ciudades de USA (a Boston en repetidas ocasiones)

“NCRA UNIT BST 314 7 EMRG MSG NEW YORK STAGE 7 WASHINGTON STAGE 7 LOS ANGELES STAGE 7 AUSTIN STAGE 7 CHICAGO STAGE 7 NEW ORLEAN STAGE 7 LAS VEGAS UNKNOWN MIAMI STAGE 7 DALLAS STAGE 7 DENVER STAGE 7 SAN DIEGO STAGE 7 SAN FRANCISCO STAGE 7 BOSTO”




Pd: Tambien hay referencias a Vault Tec Smilie
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#21  Enviado: 13:10 02/12/2013

Que ganas de que salga, no creo que sea una trolleada, sino lo hubieran desmentido
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#22  Enviado: 13:14 02/12/2013

Joder, que ganazas de ver algo...y tiene que ser para la next-gen sí o sí Smilie
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#23  Enviado: 17:48 02/12/2013

En respuesta a TimeDevouncer (réplica 22).
Joder, que ganazas de ver algo...y tiene que ser para la next-gen sí o sí Smilie
Si Fallout 4 esta a cargo de Bethesda, ves mentalizandote para otro refrito del engine de siempre xDDD (y los bugs de siempre tb)
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#24  Enviado: 00:12 03/12/2013

Primeras imagenes filtradas Smilie



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¿Alguien me podria explicar por qué internet esta lleno de paladines que salvaguardan la integridad y el honor de multinacionales a las que les importamos una putisima mierda?
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#25  Enviado: 09:09 03/12/2013

Destroy the core!
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#26  Enviado: 16:48 03/12/2013

Esperemos que se confirme, es uno de los juegos que mas espero sobretodo despues del Fallout 3 para mi el juego que mas he disfrutado en Xbox 360.

Solo pido que se curren un nuevo motor porque me imagino el Yermo en PS4 y..... Smilie
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#27  Enviado: 16:52 03/12/2013

Yo me lleve un hype jodido la semana pasada con la cuenta atras, y luego el domingo solo pusieron otro codigo chorra xd.
En fin, si fuera fake supongo que bethesda se hubiera desentendido ya, pero por otro lado le estan sacando demasiado juego sin dar nada palpable.
Lo jodido va a ser como al final termine la cuenta atras y sea algo tipo fallout para moviles o algo decepcionante xd.
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#28  Enviado: 16:53 03/12/2013

Me da que el engine va a ser el Id5 (el de Rage vamos)
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#29  Enviado: 18:24 03/12/2013

En respuesta a Aldal (réplica 27).
Yo me lleve un hype jodido la semana pasada con la cuenta atras, y luego el domingo solo pusieron otro codigo chorra xd.
En fin, si fuera fake supongo que bethesda se hubiera desentendido ya, pero por otro lado le estan sacando demasiado juego sin dar nada palpable.
Lo jodido va a ser como al final termine la cuenta atras y sea algo tipo fallout para moviles o algo decepcionante xd.
Espero que no, si lo han hecho por estas fechas irá en relación con la salida de las dos consolas; estaría bien que algún infiltrado lo desvelara sea lo que sea y les jodan la cuenta atrás por hacerse de rogar
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#30  Enviado: 02:03 07/12/2013


Bethesda Softworks
‏@Bethblog

PSA: If you don’t hear it through an official channel like this, assume all rumors and speculation are false.


twitter.com/Bethblog/status/409085013397733376
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